3743Hrs – Gas, Masts and Oscar

9 Responses

  1. Spencer says:

    Found your website last week when I ordered the study plans for what I hope will be my self-built Tiki 38. I started reading and couldn’t stop. So………now that I’m caught up, please feel free to carry on. I was worried you were going to launch without me! Love the build, and the narrative is very insightful!

  2. Ken says:

    I assume you have a vented gas locker?

  3. NeilH says:

    Hi Spencer good to hear from another prospective builder, those study plans are dangerous!

  4. Spencer says:

    Yes, and they have been for years from what I hear. Thanks for the answer. Your story is very intriguing. If it were a book I’d have never put it down.

    Would you mind answering a question or two? Not to pick apart any of your statements, but just to help me decide on model?

    #1- Now that yours is totally enclosed, is it as roomy as you thought it would be or do you wish you had more? I ask because I am 5’10” and my wife is 5’7″ and with approximately the same build as you and Gail. Would we find ourselves packed in the hulls?

    #2- You stated in one of your earlier posts that the 38 was about the upper limit of a singlehander’s ability. Is this your opinion or is that a recommendation from Wharram? This one really concerns me as, with jsut the two of us aboard, it may be neccesary due to illness or injury—Plus, I really like the room in the 46(shhhhh….don’t let on!)

    #3- You seemed to have made steady progress when working, and I really like the way you tracked only the work hours. So, now that she nears completion, would you feel safe in saying that an approximate build time is closer to 4000 hours for a single individual?

  5. NeilH says:

    Hi Spencer, OK here are my answers:

    #1 Yes I’m happy with the interior space as per the plans. A few inches more headroom in the forward cabins would be nice but the main cabins are fine. As always it’s a balance. When Martin Hivon built his Tiki 38 Al Raso he raised all the coach roofs to accommodate his 6’6″. He chose practicality over looks. Ultimately that’s the beauty of these boats you can, within reason, custom build to your own wishes.

    #2 Personally I wouldn’t want to handle anything bigger than a 38 single-handed. Everything on the 46 is substantially bigger, I guess if set up properly it may be possible. Ask the question over on The Wharram Builders & Friends forum, there are some experienced 46 sailors over there who are better qualified to answer.

    #3 I’m a slow worker with fairly basic tools and in that respect then yes 3500 – 4000 hours seems right. Everyone has different experience, standards, conditions, tools etc so there will be huge variances. All agree that the Wharram 2200 hours is wildly optimistic. I’d work on 3000 – 3500 hours. If you go for a 46 it will be waaay more. It’s a big boat.

    Hope that helps, thanks again for following.

  6. Spencer says:


    Thanks for taking the time to answer, I know you are pushing the clock to hell and back right now and every minute is precious. Your information is great, and you are giving all of us a lot of insight into the process.

    Now get crackin’ man, you are in the double digits for the launch countdown!

    All the Best

  7. Jacques says:

    It is fairly simple: The 46 weight twice the 38. So, basically, twice the materials, twice the time, twice the cost.

  8. Spencer says:

    Hmmm–thanks Jacques, never thought of it that way. Leave it to me to overcomplicate the thing. Twice the work you say? And here I was wondering about a measely 4000 hours-lol!

    Another question for Neil, if you don’t mind–What is the total height of your pram from keel to highest point? Only asking because I’m thinking of building a tender first in order to determine if this is something I even want to attempt on a large scale. I can abandon a tender in frustration or lack of abilities if needed.

  9. NeilH says:

    Hi Spencer

    That’s a good idea. It’s a 7’7″ Nutshell Pram, you’ll find plenty of info online.

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