210 Hrs – Ply Problem

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  1. Tim Cote says:

    Wow Neil, Bs 1088 that isn’t!!! You have an opportunity to use this aggravation as an opportunity—start screaming bloody hell! Lloyds, or whoever it is that has authority over the application of this standard should be appauled, the vendor who sold it to you should be worried to death about their reputation, and the manufacturer who applied the stamp to sub-standard products should be terrified about becoming exposed. It sounds like you’ve pulled out the documentation of BS 1088 standard (for which they sure charge us boatbuilders boatloads of dough), and have well-documented the flaws on so-stamped materials (post more pics!). Use all these aforementioned liabilities by the folks/system who tried to screw you and have them "make right" with you with proper materials and maybe even some kind of fiscal compensation for your aggrivation. Threaten to name names and expose individuals here.

    Good that you picked up the flaws and haulted the action. When any one of us calls a stop to shoddy materials deceitfully marketed under standards that we pay a premium for, that act of defiance helps all of the rest of us too.

    Well, that’s pretty rabid speech for a Saturday night. Good luck tomorow. I am off on work travel, will follow you as I can…

    Tim

  2. Tim Cote says:

    Incidently, here are the BS 1088 standards:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BS_1088

    Your stuff definately is in violation, but not for all the reasons you cite. Number of plys and weight seem not to be a consideration; the face check is clearly wrong and I agree with you that there are core void (i.e., it is not a "small split").It would be well worth taking a micrometer to it to see if this nominal 9mm plywood is < the thickness tolerance at 8.25mm; just eyeing it I think it might be. Were it me, then just for giggles I’d do the "boil test" too.

    Tim

  3. Thomas Nielsen says:

    Neil,

    What they shipped you is Meranti BS1088 and it looks pretty typical. From your other photos it looks like you are using Okume. Okume is the better grade of the two. I just went out to my shop and pulled a chunk of 9mm Meranti I happened to have to compare. I’ll send you photos via email. Look at your bill of goods to see if it says Okume or Meranti. The guys in the warehouse probably pulled from the wrong stock. What you are seeing in the stock they delivered is pretty typical for Meranti. The only thing wierd is the weight as Meranti is typical as much as 25% heavier than Okume.

    Thomas

  4. Tim Cote says:

    Incidently, here are the BS 1088 standards:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BS_1088

    Your stuff definately is in violation, but not for all the reasons you cite. Number of plys and weight seem not to be a consideration; the face check is clearly wrong and I agree with you that there are core void (i.e., it is not a "small split").It would be well worth taking a micrometer to it to see if this nominal 9mm plywood is < the thickness tolerance at 8.25mm; just eyeing it I think it might be. Were it me, then just for giggles I’d do the "boil test" too.

    Tim

  5. Tim Cote says:

    Incidently, here are the BS 1088 standards:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BS_1088

    Your stuff definately is in violation, but not for all the reasons you cite. Number of plys and weight seem not to be a consideration; the face check is clearly wrong and I agree with you that there are core void (i.e., it is not a "small split").It would be well worth taking a micrometer to it to see if this nominal 9mm plywood is < the thickness tolerance at 8.25mm; just eyeing it I think it might be. Were it me, then just for giggles I’d do the "boil test" too.

    Tim

  6. Tim Cote says:

    Incidently, here are the BS 1088 standards:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BS_1088

    Your stuff definately is in violation, but not for all the reasons you cite. Number of plys and weight seem not to be a consideration; the face check is clearly wrong and I agree with you that there are core void (i.e., it is not a "small split").It would be well worth taking a micrometer to it to see if this nominal 9mm plywood is < the thickness tolerance at 8.25mm; just eyeing it I think it might be. Were it me, then just for giggles I’d do the "boil test" too.

    Tim

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